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Sunday
Nov222015

More prejudice and propaganda

Like many people I'm curious to see A Billion Lives, a film about vaping, when it's released next year.

It's ironic however that a trailer for a pro-vaping documentary should begin with the bold statement 'YOU ARE BEING LIED TO' (about the risks of e-cigarettes) before making the utterly bogus claim that "One hundred and sixty-five thousand kids die from secondhand smoke [pause] every year."

To be fair, the vaping community was split last night with several vapers voicing their concern on Twitter and another saying the matter had been "dealt with", whatever that means.

Many more however are happy to pass on the message. At the time of writing the trailer has been retweeted 273 times and viewed by more than 20,000 people.

As for the film's snappy (and tendentious) title, the producers are clearly content to promote the anti-smoking mantra that half of all (long-term) smokers worldwide will die as a direct result of their habit, ignoring other factors such as diet, poverty and genetics.

If the film is as evidence-based as the trailer (and the title), I can't wait to review it.

Saturday
Nov212015

Stuff ASH Scotland and their pathetic petition

Dick Puddlecote has done an excellent job highlighting some of the exchanges that took place when ASH Scotland CEO Sheila Duffy gave evidence to the Scottish Parliament's Public Petitions Committee this week.

The session took place in response to a petition by ASH Scotland that calls on the Scottish Parliament "to develop guidance for all those working in the Parliament, to ensure adherence to obligations under the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, as set up by the World Health Organisation, and to which the UK is a signatory".

You can read the petition here but essentially ASH Scotland wants to restrict and control the extent to which tobacco companies and other "vested interests" can communicate with our elected representatives.

Although she was careful not to directly accuse the Scottish Parliament of being in breach of an international treaty, that was the implication.

Specifically, the petition highlights Article 5.3 of the World Health Organisation's Framework Treaty on Tobacco Control (FCTC) that says:

In setting and implementing their public health policies with respect to tobacco control, Parties shall act to protect these policies from commercial and other vested interests of the tobacco industry.

Tobacco control activists frequently cite Article 5.3 as a reason ministers and elected politicians shouldn't meet representatives of the tobacco industry.

In fact, nowhere in the FCTC does it say that governments cannot engage with the tobacco industry. The guidance merely stipulates that meetings with the industry and its proxies should take place "only when strictly necessary".

"Only when strictly necessary" is open to interpretation, of course, but at the very least it should include issues such as illicit trade, taxation and proposed legislation that directly or indirectly affects the industry, its supply chain (farmers, distributers, wholesalers, retailers) and customers.

Most important, I would suggest it's up to our elected representatives to decide what is "strictly necessary" not unelected taxpayer-funded lobbyists citing a clause in a treaty signed by dozens of regimes for whom the words 'free trade' and 'open government' are unfathomable if not abhorrent.

If I understand ASH Scotland's petition correctly, this ridiculous organisation (currently in receipt of £800k per annum from the Scottish Government) wants unelected bureaucrats to have the power to edit or veto tobacco industry missives to ministers and other parliamentarians in order to spare them exposure to contentious or allegedly misleading information.

Laughably Duffy tried to justify this by telling the Committee it "would save you time". (Why not go the whole hog and do away with parliamentary democracy completely?)

Meanwhile ASH Scotland and the entire tobacco control industry will continue to be free to make whatever statements they like without fear of censorship. Goebells would be very proud.

Thankfully several members of the Public Petitions Committee, including the convenor (Labour's Michael McMahon), seemed less than impressed with this pitiful attempt to restrict and even censor communications between a legitimate industry and our parliamentary representatives.

I won't quote what Dick Puddlecote had to say other than to repeat his recommendation that you read the relevant section of the Committee report (scroll down to 'New Petitions').

The only thing I will add is, look out for the robotic nature of Duffy's replies as she repeats the same points time after time. You wouldn't want to get stuck in a lift with her.

There was however some light relief. Responding to Duffy's warning that having the chief executive of a tobacco company as a constituent might be an "issue" for MSPs ("You might then have to consider how you interacted with them"), Labour's Hanzala Malik noted drily:

It is unlikely that I have a chief executive in the constituency, but one lives in hope.

Do you think he was making fun of her? One lives in hope.

PS. I've written about Article 5.3 several times. One post in January 2011 (It's good to talk: why UK ministers must ignore this foreign diktat) pretty much sums up my feelings:

It seems to me that dialogue with the manufacturer of a legal product is the least we should expect of any government. Anything else is a dereliction of duty and morally ministers give up the right to govern if they adopt such a policy.

Likewise, a government that refuses to engage with the consumer cannot complain if the consumer decides to operate outside the normal parameters.

History tells us that governments - even democratic ones - are never shy to engage with terrorists and other opponents of the state.

When it comes to tobacco, a legal product that generates billions of pounds of revenue for governments worldwide, different rules apply. Scandalous, really, and yet few people ever mention it.

If I have a wish for 2011 it's that Big Government liaises far more closely with tobacco manufacturers and the consumer. Stuff the FCTC. If they have any self-respect UK ministers will use their common sense and not be dictated to by foreign diktat.

When I wrote that I possibly gave Article 5.3 too much credence. As we now know, it's more flexible and open to interpretation than some would have us believe.

Nevertheless, in the same spirit as that 2011 post, my message to the Scottish Parliament in 2015 is – stuff ASH Scotland and their pathetic, sanctimonious petition.

If they have any self-respect MSPs will use their common sense and not be dictated to by unelected political lobbyists who have no mandate to control anything, least of all what politicians can and can't read.

The arrogance of ASH Scotland's position is staggering but no more than we've come to expect.

The remarkable thing is the petition wasn't thrown out there and then. Instead it stumbles on. Watch this space.

Update: I've just read Grandad's latest post. He doesn't have much time for Sheila either. Or, to put it another way:

"She seems to like wallowing in shit."

Thursday
Nov192015

Nicotine wars – choice is king

Interested to read that BAT is to test a 'hybrid product that combines tobacco and e-cigarette technology'.

Philip Morris, of course, has its own tobacco-based vapour product (the Marlboro Heatstick) while JTI has Ploom, a tobacco vapour pod device.

Given that Forest stands for Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco, any device that involves tobacco has to be of interest.

It's encouraging too to know that tobacco companies are focussed on developing harm reduction products designed to appeal to smokers who want options other than a non-tobacco vaporiser.

Some people seem to think these devices are a threat to e-cigarettes. Maybe they are, maybe they'e not, but it will be fascinating to see how this plays out over the next decade. Personally I think there's room for these and other devices (some still to be invented).

Truth is, e-cigs are not universally popular with smokers. If they were millions more would have switched. The fact that they haven't suggests there must be a gap in the market for other nicotine devices.

That said, if they're not over-regulated, e-cigarettes have a big advantage because they have an established and growing consumer base.

In contrast tobacco vaporisers have a lot of catching up to do and it's possible they will never be anything more than a niche product with a devoted but small following.

The important thing is to offer consumers a wide range of products and allow them to make an informed choice.

In other words, let the market – not politicians – decide.

Wednesday
Nov182015

Céad mile fáilte – but not if you're a smoker

Forest's John Mallon has been out and about telling people why smokers in Ireland are getting a raw deal.

His message is summed up by these quotes:

“It is now seen as reasonable by government to punish smokers in almost any way imaginable and, rather than worry about smokers' rights, the non-smoking public is cheering them on. This is a dangerous development in terms of social cohesion and it’s also an unfair attack on one group in society, simply because they smoke.

“Smokers have accepted every restriction placed on them, and cases of smokers lighting up in pubs or cafes are extremely rare. Yet that’s not enough for anti-smoking advocates who want to demonise smokers for their temerity to smoke at all, and marginalise them as 'bad people' unworthy of any consideration whatsoever.

“We are being made to feel that we are less than others, that we are a burden on society in terms of health costs, that we engage in criminal activity and put the health of others at risk even when we smoke outside. None of this is true. Instead it’s our belief that the war on tobacco, including plain packaging, is a smokescreen to hide government failure in other areas.”

See Smokers: Ireland's second class citizens? (Forest Eireann).

John lives in Cork but the tour began in Dublin where he appeared on Newstalk, the nation's leading independent talk radio station.

After that he travelled around the country giving interviews to Ocean FM (Sligo), Galway Bay FM (Galway), Midwest Radio (Ballyhaunis), Tipp FM (Clonmel) Clare FM (Ennis) and Kerry Radio (Tralee).

Click on the links to listen.

Ironically he finished the tour today as a guest of Cork 96FM responding to complaints about people smoking in bus queues and around pub doorways!

I'm looking forward to reading John's tour report but meanwhile here's a taste. If you're planning a holiday in Ireland, look away now:

I phoned two hotels in Clonmel and got a snotty 'no smoking' policy read to me.

Ennis was even worse. I asked two hotels the direct question, "Would you prefer smokers didn't stay at your hotel?" and incredibly both said YES!!!

In Galway John tried "many" hotels but "none of them offered a bedroom with smoking allowed". Forced to book a room on the second floor of a resolutely non-smoking establishment he told me:

I'm paying top dollar for a nice room and the food is OK too. But the issue is that I don't feel at home. I don't even feel welcome.

I sense by their actions that they'd prefer if I wasn't a smoker. I have a card in the room that invites me to rate my stay and I know what I'd love to write on it.

So that's where we are.

I urge you to click on some of the links above and listen to one or two of his interviews. John did a great job. We're lucky to have him as our spokesman in Ireland.

Wednesday
Nov182015

Fighting talk

Plenty of positive reactions here and on Facebook in response to Pat Nurse's article, 'Life and times of a dedicated smoker', which I posted on Friday.

It wasn't universal, though. One response, delivered via Twitter by an ex-smoking vaper, was a curt and dismissive "Not interested".

This was because Pat had posted some disparaging comments elsewhere about a certain body that is fiercely opposed to excessive anti-vaping regulations but is invisible and mute when it comes to anti-tobacco legislation.

Thankfully not all vapers are as myopic or as sensitive to views that, frankly, mirror their own anger and frustration.

In particular I warmly recommend 'Them and Us' by Paul Barnes on his Facts Do Matter blog. It was written not in response to Pat's article but in reaction to a couple of posts about last week's E-Cigarette Summit in London.

One was written by me (Why I'm not attending today's E-Cigarette Summit), the other was posted by Action on Consumer Choice (One cheer for the E-Cigarette Summit).

In his article Paul recalls meeting me at Vapefest and one or two things I said. He covers a fair bit of ground and finishes by writing:

Many vapers are openly supportive of smokers and do as much as they can to preserve the freedom of choice. I myself have responded to the various consultations on smoking ban extensions as an opponent of them. Back when the public place smoking ban was enacted I was silent, because I didn’t know how to respond. Back then I was one of "them". A sheeple.

Now I’m one of "us" I abhor what has been done to smokers. I fucking well lived through it. My primary goal, as a vaper, is to preserve choice. The choice for smokers to switch if they wish. The choice for vapers to use their devices. The choice for smokers to carry on smoking if they wish. I’ll work with smokers and their representative groups, if they’ll work with me.

Offer happily accepted, Paul. Ditto any other vapers who wish to join our 2016 campaign against outdoor smoking bans which, sooner or later, will embrace vaping too.

Naturally the offer of support is reciprocated. Like Paul, Forest believes in choice for all consumers and we will never put politics before principle.

Anyway, thanks to Paul, Liam Bryan and Jessica Harding (all from Vapers In Power) who have demonstrated that while they advocate vaping as an alternative to smoking they are prepared to support smokers' rights as well.

H/T also to David Dorn who broadcasts an Internet TV channel called Vapour Trails TV. David is a wildly enthusiastic and knowledgeable advocate of e-cigarettes. He too has not lost sight of his roots and understands, I think, the anger and hurt that Pat Nurse expressed in her article and elsewhere.

Talking of whom, Pat emailed me after I published her article last week:

I know how you feel about my strong and often, these days anyway, insulting language. But before you judge me too harshly, remember I am as I have been made.

Anti-smokers can call me smelly and ugly or a child abuser and I'll respond by calling them thugs. They can say I'm killing people and I'm selfish or a pathetic addict, and I will be sure to call them mental cases or some other strong insult back.

Basically I give what I get. If I have become nasty it's because over the last ten years or so I have had a lot of hate thrown at me as if it is some kind of right these days.

It isn't good PR, I grant you, but then why not? Being polite doesn't work, asking to be heard doesn't work, asking simply just to be left alone without some new harassment doesn't work. Signing petitions and campaigning doesn't work.

So, if throwing insults takes them even a little out of their comfort zone of feeling they are helping to save me and people like me who wish they'd just F off, then I'm at least doing all that I feel can be done.

Anyway, I'll let this issue lie for a while because I know it gets boring banging the same drum.

In the meantime, a suggestion for David Dorn. Why not invite Pat to take part in an edition of Vapour Trails? You could introduce her to a selection of e-cig devices and juices, and she could tell you why she prefers smoking (assuming you can't convince her otherwise).

I'd watch that – I'd even take part, if asked!

Tuesday
Nov172015

Never trust an anti-smoking campaigner

Michael Siegel is a professor of community health sciences at the Boston University School of Public Health.

He's considered one of the more thoughtful tobacco control campaigners to the extent that, a few years ago, people who should know better were hanging on his every word, reading and analysing his blog as if it was gospel.

It made me feel a bit nauseous, to be honest.

Anyway, via Juliette Tworsey, I've now discovered that Siegel appears to believe a ban on smoking in public housing is "a natural step to continue to spread the smoke-free protections that started with workplaces and then spread to restaurants and bars".

You can find the full quote here. According to the report, Siegel "praised" the proposal.

Then again, I'm sure if you speak to most tobacco control campaigners they would agree with him. Even if they thought it was a step too far they certainly wouldn't lift a finger to stop it happening.

That's why I have so little time for anti-smoking activists. Their default position is not to educate but to regulate, legislate and prohibit. Choice and personal responsibility are anathemas to them.

Amusingly, the hero worship that Dr Siegel experienced a few years ago is now targeted at every public health campaigner who advocates e-cigarettes.

While it may be great sport to watch the tobacco control industry divide on the subject of vaping, don't be fooled into thinking that public health advocates of e-cigs are now in the liberal pro-choice camp. They're not.

The choice they are offering is not to smoke or vape. It's to quit or vape. E-cigarettes are a means to an end.

Public health advocacy of vaping is just another tool in the long-running war on smokers. Indeed the enthusiasm with which some public health campaigners have embraced e-cigarettes borders on zealotry.

Whether they are with you or against you there's a fanatical glint in many a tobacco controller's eye that should make any normal person wince.

My guess is that many of the people currently advocating e-cigs as a healthier alternative to combustible cigarettes will turn eventually against all non-pharma nicotine devices.

They say you should never work with children or animals. I feel the same way about public health campaigners. Sooner or later it's going to end in tears.

Friday
Nov132015

Life and times of a dedicated smoker

Yesterday's E-Cigarette Summit in London provoked a minor spat on Twitter.

One or two vapers were shocked, apparently, by the strength of Pat Nurse's comment (on this blog) about the New Nicotine Alliance. One responded by calling her a "nutcase" who is "not worth the bother".

Now, I've known Pat for ten years and I don't always agree with her or the way she sometimes expresses herself online, but she doesn't deserve that.

Frankly, she deserves rather more respect.

Over the years Pat has put her career on the line by frequently speaking and writing about smoking-related issues. She hasn't received a penny for doing so yet she often appears on television and radio as the smoker who doesn't want to quit.

She doesn't do it for the publicity or the infamy. Quite often she'll moan and say "What's the point?" but after some gentle persuasion she'll almost always relent because she believes passionately in the cause.

By sticking her neck above the parapet, Pat has made herself a target for the most outrageous abuse, some of it of a very personal nature. As I say, I don't agree with everything she says but I admire her so much for sticking to her guns.

Anyway, I want to draw her detractors' attention to the following article, written by Pat and published in 2008. It was no longer online and I think it deserves to be.

Personally I think it's her finest hour because she's not fighting the world or using language and insults that, I think, can be counter-productive. She explains simply and without fuss the background that led her to smoke (she started at the age of eight) and puts it in a wider context.

Pat Nurse is as passionate and feisty about tobacco as some vaping advocates are about e-cigarettes. Most important, she believes in choice. If that makes her a "nutcase", what does it say about them?

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Life and times of a dedicated smoker
Guest post by Pat Nurse

I am not proud of the fact that I began smoking so young, but I don't regret it either. It is a fact of life that some children will smoke whether we like it or not and it is certainly ingrained in my culture as much as in anyone else's religion, race or class.

Back then it was almost expected if not fully accepted. Doctors advised my mum to start smoking in her thirtes to relieve the stress of being left alone to bring up five children. Years later they advised that she gave up for her health. The argument was that each cigarette she didn't have extended her life by x amount of years. We worked out she should have lived to be 150. She died aged 75. If I live that long I will be happy. She was not as fortunate as a neighbour who began smoking in his teens, gave up aged 92, and lived to be 104!

My teachers told me that smoking would stunt my growth and give me cancer but so far it hasn't done either. My father told me he used to smoke with his mates during the war in stressful situations and I suppose the comradeship I shared over a cigarette with my friends behind the school bike shed, in between bouts of bullying from other kids, was also my reason for enjoying it.

The fanatical anti-smoking stance was not something that affected me until relatively recent years. We used to call these people 'health freaks' because of their unnatural obsession with the subject when we all know that none of us can live forever. If smoking was eradicated tomorrow the graveyards would still be full of people who die at the beginning, middle and end of each generation for a variety of reasons. We are missing the real health issues by concentrating on just one and hiding behind a smokescreen of abuse and false accusations towards smokers.

I remember the health warnings of the 1970s. Some people took these on board and gave up. Good for them but other people chose not to. The cost of cigarettes was the next big persuader to get people to stop smoking. The thought of putting away fag money for a nice little holiday at the end of the year appealed to some who gave up but not to others like myself who couldn't think of anything better to spend their money on.

Then came the social insults. I recall the TV ad campaign which suggested women who smoked were unattractive because they smelled. Some gave up, others didn't because in the scheme of things, smelling of smoke was not nearly so bad as bad breath, BO, mouldy clothing or cheap perfume - something that some smokers and non-smokers were, and still are, guilty of.

Recognising that this approach didn't work, the health lobby began to produce 'evidence' (which they are still trying to prove conclusively 30 years on) that smoking did not just hurt you but other people through passive smoking. This encouraged some smokers to quit but not others. Personally it had no effect on me.

I felt victimised because worse environmentally damaging factors were ignored such as traffic fumes which have been proved conclusively to cause lung cancer in pedestrians and still nothing is being done about banning traffic in public for the good health of 'innocent' people who choose to walk and not drive.

Bullying, misleading advertising campaigns and social exclusion seem to be the latest tactics used. I'm told by a health worker that the fatty cigarette is an untruth. Smoking does not cause that to happen. The smoking babies' ad is also false. You would not see that much smoke coming from a child's mouth unless it inhaled directly from a Jamaican bong!

I resent being made to feel that I am putting my children's lives in danger by smoking in another room of the house while there are no qualms about encouraging me to get my youngest child to walk to school and be poisoned by the huge amount of traffic fumes in the air that make my eyes water because they are so strong.

If I really had to sit and worry that I am going to die early and leave my children - three of whom are grown up - then I would never take a plane, a boat or a car again in the knowledge that I am more likely to die from a something like a car accident than smoking. I recently gave up horse riding because an accident meant a month off work and caused me to think how easy it would have been to break my neck instead of my arm. Time off work for a 'smoking related illness' is something that I have never had.

No smoking policies at work places, while not ideal, are something that I don't object to. It is an employer's right to choose as it should be my right to choose what I do out of work or whether I work for a firm that operates such a policy. I'm currently looking for a new challenge but dismayed by job adverts that wants 'non-smokers only'.

Outraged, I contacted the Equal Opportunities Commission to find that discrimination legislation does not cover this. Apparently, it is OK and perfectly legal to exclude this certain section of society. I'm sure that will go down well at the dole office as a reason why someone is unemployable.

But why bother being hypocritical and pretending we have a fair and equal society that offers the same chances for all if in reality it doesn't? If we cannot practice tolerance for smokers what chance have we got that others will tolerate people from different ethnic groups or religions because they are not shown the same kind of tolerance because they indulge in a habit that is unpopular in some circles?

I am not really the sort of person who visits pubs very often but I do love cafes. A cup of tea without a cigarette is like taking it without sugar or milk, or coffee without cream. I think when the war on obesity begins in earnest, banning cream and sugar and telling restaurants and cafes what they can put on the menu is only a step away.

Now there is smoking ban there is no point my ever visiting cafes again. On the one hand our Government moralises on the importance of social inclusion and then sets about socially excluding what in effect is a certain class of people because they smoke. And then they wonder why they can never reach people from such classes.

Despite the fact that I pay my taxes, I have only ever used the services of a hospital when I've had babies, and a broken arm, but I have been refused treatment in the past because I am not prepared to lie and say I don't smoke.

I recall a young women in hospital at the same time as me who gave birth to dead baby boy at eight and a half months pregnant. She was made to feel that it was all her fault because she smoked. This was despite the fact that she had four healthy kids and five Caesareans - when only an absolute maximum of three is advised and her womb just could not take the pressure.

The poor soul lost so much blood that she almost died. When she came round the only comfort she needed for her grief was a cigarette. The hospital had recently got rid of it's smoking room and she was wheeled outside into the cold air, half dead with blood bags and lines going into her arm. The local priest, who had been sent by her worried parents to read her the last rites, was appalled at the cruelty, lack of care and comfort offered to this 'anti-social pariah'.

One of the few issues I do agree with is the cost of smoking to the NHS but for very different reasons. I recently noticed that four smoking cessation posts advertised locally were offering £25,000 each per year salary. That is £100,000 in one county. Spread that across the whole country and you have a lot of money that could be better used for patient care.

Anyone who really wants to give up smoking can without too much difficulty because experience tells me that smoking is habit forming but not physically addictive. Such money spent in a bid to try and get people like me off cigarettes is being thrown into a black hole. Better still if that money was combined and pooled into providing drug treatment centres to help people who really need it like heroin and alcohol addicts who do cause huge problems to society because of their addictions.

Smokers like me will never give up. Any hope of that has gone because of the constant bullying, exclusion and pressure which only makes my resolve to exercise my right to choose even stronger. I would rather die than give in to the sanctimonious, biased, and prejudicial pressure heaped upon me by anti-smoking propaganda that often uses tenuous and exaggerated scientific 'evidence' while pulling figures out of the air that are never tested but have the desired dramatic effect.

Pat Nurse is a freelance journalist

Thursday
Nov122015

Why I'm not attending today's E-Cigarette Summit

Are any readers at the E-Cigarette Summit in London today?

I went to the first one, two years ago, and wrote about it here (The E-Cigarette Summit: another view). I was quite positive.

Last year I considered going again but when I looked at the list of speakers it was pretty much the same as the year before and heaven knows there are only so many times I can listen to Deborah Arnott without jumping off a bridge.

This year I received several emails inviting me to attend at a cost of £350 (plus VAT) and I was tempted until I saw that not only were the usual anti-smoking suspects speaking (again), but they were now joined by the likes of Andrea Crossfield (Tobacco Free Futures) and Prof John Britton (UK Centre for Tobacco and Alcohol Studies).

Frankly (and I don't care how good the biscuits are), the thought of spending a whole day being lectured by one anti-smoking activist after another is too much.

To be fair the organisers have made some effort to include consumers on the platform but, inevitably, they've invited only ex-smokers who represent 40 per cent of the e-cigarette market.

To the best of my knowledge there won't be a single dual user speaking, despite the fact that they represent 60 per cent of e-cig users.

I also sense a slightly patronising attitude towards the vapers who are speaking. With one exception they have been put in sessions where they are sharing the platform with four or five other panellists so their contributions will be limited to say the least.

In contrast John Britton has been parachuted in and given his own session. Ditto Andrea Crossfield who will be talking about 'E-Cigarettes: Practitioners Views, Beliefs, Experiences and Concerns'.

Now I've known Andrea for several years (and like her) but to the best of my knowledge she's not a 'practitioner'. She's a full-time, state-funded anti-tobacco campaigner. Surely that session could have been given by Lorien Jollye or Sarah Jakes of the New Nicotine Alliance?

The session that stands out for me takes place this afternoon, when Shirley Cramer, chief executive of the Royal Society for Public Health, asks, 'Can e-cigarettes be part of the endgame for tobacco?'.

As you know, the RSPH wants to ban smoking outside pubs in order to force smokers to quit or use e-cigarettes instead. Well, according to the programme, the session will tackle the following issues:

How can public health policy harness the opportunity that e-cigarettes offer and pave the way for a brave new public health strategy to end the smoking epidemic? The opportunity now exists to further limit access to smoking and as part of harm reduction efforts support smokers onto safer forms of nicotine, including e-cigarettes. With safer alternatives in place, is the time right to consider the removal of nicotine from cigarettes and eventually move towards a public ban on combustible tobacco products?

The audience at the E-Cigarette Summit tends to be a combination of public health workers (whose places are no doubt paid for by the taxpayer), tobacco and Big Pharma executives, and members of the ex-smoking vaping community.

If I was present (or a fly on the wall), I'd be interested to hear what Cramer has to say. (Hopefully her presentation will go online after the event.)

I'd be curious too to see who (if anyone) has the bottle to challenge talk of a public ban on combustible tobacco products as well as further limiting 'access to smoking'.

I'd like to think that one or two of my vaping buddies will have the courage to say something. Sadly, the most likely outcome is, "I would rather not talk about tobacco, to be honest."

One final point. A couple of months ago, in a spirit of constructive criticism, I suggested a panel featuring an ex-smoking vaper, a dual user, a heat not burn practitioner, and a committed smoker. It would be interesting, I thought, to get a range of consumer perspectives.

I also said the E-Cigarette Summit could benefit from some industry participation. After all, moving forward, Big Tobacco has a major role to play and it would be interesting to hear what developments are in the pipeline.

It would also allow vapers to vent their anger and frustration at what some see as BT's less than helpful stance on e-cig regulation (in the USA in particular). That would be quite a lively session.

We know why Big Tobacco isn't represented on the platform, though, don't we? Many of the anti-tobacco campaigners invited to speak would refuse to take part.

And so, instead of helping to create the widest possible network dedicated to harm reduction, the E-Cigarette Summit resembles just another public health convention – and, boy, do we need another one of those.

Anyway, if anyone is at the E-Cig Summit today and would like to comment, I'd be pleased to hear from you.

I do have an open mind (honest!). Experience however has taught me to be cynical about tobacco control. Sorry.

Update: I can't speak highly enough of this article – do read: One cheer for the E-Cigarette Summit (Action on Consumer Choice).