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Thursday
Jul252019

Smokers' rights and civil liberties

The war on smoking in Australia went a step further this week when a council in Sydney banned smoking in public places throughout its business district.

In the context of smoking ‘public places’ used to be shorthand for enclosed public places which was defined as anywhere members of the public might congregate.

That allowed regulators to designate pubs and clubs as ‘public’ spaces even though they are actually private premises that people have a choice to enter - unlike, say, a bank or a post office.

Shortly after the introduction of the smoking ban even private homes were designated as ‘public’ (or work) places for the duration of a visit by a social worker or health visitor, for example.

The aim, as we know, was to ‘protect’ the health of non-smokers who might be exposed to ‘secondhand’ smoke, even though the evidence of harm was (and still is) contentious.

Despite that the definition of public places where smoking must be banned now includes the great outdoors - anywhere, in fact, where another member of the public might be present.

Two reasons are generally cited to justify this.

One, children must be ‘protected’ from the sight of people smoking in case in encourages them to take up the habit.

Two, the health risks of ‘passive’ smoking.

'The children' argument seems especially ridiculous in this instance because I can’t imagine there are many teenagers roaming the business district of North Sydney.

According to the local mayor however:

“I think limiting the exposure of young people to a smoking environment is a really positive thing to do and I think the time will come reasonably soon where smoking wont be allowed at all in public. That’s my hope.”

In other words, this is simply a stepping stone towards something even more restrictive - the eradication of smoking in all 'public' places, indoors and outside, business and residential.

With regard to smoking outside, the passive smoking argument is relatively recent, in the UK at least.

When outdoor smoking bans were first suggested few anti-smokers argued that exposure to tobacco smoke in the open air was a health risk.

Today it benefits their goal of a 'smoke free' society if people believe that smoking outside is a health risk so they generally say nothing, preferring to let the myth of passive smoking extend to outdoor areas.

Credit then to Professor Simon Chapman, one of Australia’s leading anti-smoking campaigners and a man I rarely agree with, for consistently highlighting the absence of evidence concerning the health risks of smoking outside.

Here he is, quoted by the Guardian today:

“All of the evidence about passive smoking being a health risk has been gathered from chronic, long-term exposure in domestic situations or in the workplace,” he says.

“I did a review of the research in about 2012 and there was virtually no research at all conducted about outdoor exposures. The reason for that is that you wouldn’t bother measuring it because it’s so insignificant.

“If you’re walking past someone smoking in the street or a park you’re talking about a transitory, fleeting exposure of no consequence at all.”

Chapman is in good company. Professor Sir Richard Doll, the epidemiologist who first demonstrated the link between smoking and lung cancer, was of a similar mind. According to his obituary in The Times:

When questioned recently on second-hand smoke, he exasperated the anti-smoking lobby by replying: “The effects of other people smoking in my presence is so small it doesn’t worry me.”

In contrast the New South Wales Council for Civil Liberties takes a rather different view. The Guardian's Michael McGowan reports that:

Pauline Wright, the council president, told me that although she was “a little bit troubled” by the “creeping wowserism” in Australian society, the [smoking] ban is not concerning.

“It’s not an infringement of people’s rights and freedoms. It’s kind of telling people, don’t do it in a public place because science tells us it actually is a danger to people’s health. So, don’t exercise your rights in a way that harms other people.”

It was of course another great 'champion' of civil liberties, Patricia Hewitt, who forced through a comprehensive smoking ban in England after her predecessor John Reid had proposed a compromise that would have allowed smoking in private members' clubs and pubs that didn't serve food.

Prior to becoming a Labour MP and Secretary of State for Health, Hewitt was general secretary of the National Council for Civil Liberties, which later rebranded as Liberty.

Curiously smokers' rights are rarely supported by human rights' campaigners. I wrote to Shami Chakrabarti, when she was director of Liberty, asking for help. If I remember (it was a long time ago) I got a noncommittal reply.

I later found myself at a dinner at which she was the guest speaker. I wrote about it here:

During Q&As, Chakrabarti was asked why Liberty didn't support Britain's beleaguered smokers. She wasn't unsympathetic but the gist of her reply was that smokers' rights are relatively trivial compared to other human rights issues and Liberty has to prioritise.

To be fair – and I had forgotten about this – she did side with radio presenter Jon Gaunt when he was sacked by TalkSport for making on-air references to the 'health Nazis' he felt responsible for banning smokers from fostering children in Redbridge.

Generally, though, very few campaigners for civil liberties support the rights of smokers. One of the few who does is Josie Appleton, director of the Manifesto Club.

Josie has written a report for Forest that we shall be publishing very soon. Watch this space.

Tuesday
Jul232019

Government issues ultimatum to tobacco industry - make smoking history by 2030

The end of Theresa May’s premiership can’t come quickly enough.

The publication of the Government’s Green Paper on harm prevention had been expected for some time - details were leaked a couple of weeks ago - but the way it was slipped out last night took everyone by surprise.

The FT got the inside story and it appears that health secretary Matt Hancock was involved in a fierce row with the outgoing PM.

According to the FT, May wanted the proposals published as part of her ‘legacy’ (which is looking increasingly tragic).

Hancock, on the other hand, wanted to hold fire until the new PM - presumably Boris - is in office.

Commenting on the FT report, the Sun’s Shaun Wooller tweeted:

Mr Hancock was initially reluctant to have the paper published by his own Department of Health and Social Care, meaning that it was instead published by the Cabinet Office and DHSC together. The minister also argued successfully against any press notice to accompany publication.

BBC News health editor Hugh Pym tweeted:

Important Government green paper on prevention of ill-health slipped out online this evening without warning by the Cabinet Office (not DH) - quite extraordinary - @FT reporting Theresa May forced publication despite Matt Hancock’s opposition.

Apparently May wants her legacy to include a ‘ban on smoking by 2030 and a ban on the sale of energy drinks to children.’

According to the BBC News report published overnight:

The government is pledging to end smoking in England by 2030 as part of a range of measures to tackle the causes of preventable ill health.

See: Pledge to end smoking in England by 2030 (BBC News).

Meanwhile, over on the government website, you’ll find this extraordinary statement:

We are setting an ambition to go 'smoke-free' in England by 2030. This includes an ultimatum [my emphasis] for industry to make smoked tobacco obsolete by 2030, with smokers quitting or moving to reduced risk products like e-cigarettes.

See: Advancing our health: prevention in the 2020s

Closing date for consultation responses is October 14, 2019.

Also slipped out yesterday were details of a ‘post-implementation review looking at the tobacco legislation introduced between 2010 and 2016’.

The legislation introduced during this period includes bans on displaying tobacco products and prices in shops; selling nicotine-inhaling products, including e-cigarettes, to under 18s; buying nicotine-inhaling products on behalf of someone under 18 (proxy purchasing); and smoking in cars containing children.

The Government says it wants your ‘opinions and evidence on the legislation’:

Your views will help us to assess whether the legislation has achieved its objective and whether legislation is still the best way of achieving that objective.

See The impact of tobacco laws introduced between 2010 and 2016.

Closing date for this consultation is September 15, 2019.

The irony is that Forest spent years calling for a review of the impact of Labour’s smoking ban but the Conservative-led Coalition wasn’t interested.

Now, finally, we’re going to get a review of anti-smoking legislation introduced by successive Conservative-led governments but it will only go back to 2010, when the Tories came to power.

Conveniently that allows the consultation to ignore the loss of 11,000 pubs in the decade since the introduction of the ban and the subsequent impact on local communities.

It also means the Government can continue to turn a blind eye to all those polls (some as recent as 2017) in which a majority of adults in England, Scotland and Wales have consistently supported separate smoking rooms in pubs and clubs.

That is not a message the Government wants to hear so the impact of the smoking ban is simply excluded from the ‘review’.

Sunday
Jul212019

MEPs enjoying a smoke in the European Parliament

Former Forest spokesman Brian Monteith who is now a Brexit party MEP sent me this photo last week.

It features Brian and his Brexit party colleague Claire Fox enjoying what Brian calls a ‘legal puff inside the Strasbourg Parliament building - in one of the many smoking booths!!!!!’

As Claire revealed when she spoke at Forest’s 40th anniversary dinner at Boisdale last month, smoking rooms are one of many benefits MEPs enjoy in Strasbourg and Brussels.

Isn’t it typical, though, that MEPs and staff working in the European Parliament are allowed them while the overwhelming majority of smokers in EU member states have to light up outside, whatever the weather.

As ever it’s one law for the ruling elite, another for the rest of us.

Brian meanwhile has promised to send more photos of MEPs behaving ‘badly’. Watch this space.

Tuesday
Jul162019

Deborah Arnott rewrites history - the cheek of it!!

BBC Cambridgeshire yesterday asked, ‘Do you think the government can get everyone to quit smoking in ten years’ time?’

Presenter Chris Mann began his mid morning programme by interviewing Mark MacGregor of Philip Morris UK.

The company yesterday launched an online app that allows you to find out the prevalence of smokers in every constituency in the country. It's simple to use and quite smart, actually.

Based on Office for National Statistics’ figures it will be used, I imagine, to put lobby MPs whose constituencies have a smoking rate higher than the national average.

The Telegraph ran a report about it and gave it the absurd headline, ‘Smoking is almost entirely a northern pastime, new analysis finds’.

Clearly this isn’t true but I love the fact that in the minds of some non-smoking, middle class Southerners smoking can now be classified alongside ferrets, pigeon racing and rugby league.

I don’t know if Forest’s quizzical tweet had anything to do with it (‘Really? No-one smokes in London or the south of England?) but the headline was changed soon after to ‘Labour constituencies in the North have highest number of smokers’.

Anyway, Mann's interview with a silky smooth Mark MacGregor was followed by an interview with me and Deborah Arnott, CEO of ASH.

It’s been a while since I’ve shared airtime with Deborah. I don’t dislike her and I don’t think she dislikes me particularly, but there is an edge to her whenever we speak or meet.

Yesterday, after I spoke positively about e-cigarettes (as I have done for the best part of a decade), she accused me of being a “hypocrite”. According to Deborah:

I tried to get him, to encourage him and his organisation, if it was about the rights of smokers, to support alternative products. It was only when the companies that fund his organisation started to produce these products that he started to say anything about it. So, you know, I just think you can’t really listen to anything he has to say.

Talk about rewriting history! I almost choked on my almond croissant.

Given a right of reply by Chris Mann I said that being called a hypocrite by Deborah was a case of ‘pot, kettle, black’. I also pointed out that I have been writing about e-cigarettes since 2010.

In contrast I don’t remember Deborah taking much interest in the subject until a few years later, and even then her endorsement of e-cigarettes was lukewarm at best.

See, for example, my review of the first E-Cigarette Summit in London in November 2013. It included this passage:

If the E-Cigarette Summit was about the future someone really should have told Deborah. She and ASH are stuck in the past, fighting battles with the tobacco companies that are well past their sell-by date.

As for those pesky e-cigs, they are potentially highly addictive, she warned. Toxic too. And they could renormalise smoking.

She doesn't want to ban them but ASH want e-cigs advertised to smokers only. (How's that going to work?)

Honestly, when Deborah is in this mood I wouldn't want to be stuck in a lift with her.

As it happens I bumped into her very briefly at lunch. She expressed mock surprise that I was at a conference on "harm reduction".

I tried to explain that I was there because a lot of smokers (who don't want to quit) use e-cigs when they're not allowed to light up – in pubs and other enclosed public places – but I don't think she was listening.

In her mind, and those of many tobacco control campaigners, e-cigs have one use only – as a smoking cessation aid. The idea that someone might want to smoke and/or vape for pleasure is anathema to them.

Earlier that year, in May 2013, ASH issued a press release about e-cigarettes that had an important caveat:

"E-cigarettes should be brought under the control of medicines regulation [my emphasis] to ensure that they are safe to use and marketed appropriately.”

The following month ASH welcomed new regulations that would license e-cigarettes as a medicine in the UK from 2016 (see 'E-cigarettes face new restrictions', BBC News, June 2013).

Long before that Forest's support for e-cigarettes was unequivocal. In February 2013, for example, I wrote:

I was invited to discuss e-cigarettes on BBC Radio Jersey last week.

It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. It highlights however what I think is a serious weakness. Where are the spokesmen for e-cigarettes?

Apart from Michael Ryan, co-director of E-Lites, who appeared recently on Scottish Television, the e-cigarette industry is largely invisible in that respect.

Yes, there is a thriving vaping community online but where are they when it comes to bread and butter campaigning? Most of the time they are preaching to the converted.

As a champion of consumer choice Forest is happy to support and defend the use of e-cigarettes (and other smokeless tobacco products).

My concern is that, media wise, a vacuum is developing that may be filled by e-cigarette spokesmen who are profoundly anti-smoking and no more tolerant of tobacco than ASH or the BMA.

Now Deborah is trying to rewrite history and claim that she tried to encourage me ‘to support alternative products’. The absolute cheek of it!

The truth is, it’s Deborah who belatedly decided to reposition ASH as a vaper-friendly advocacy group. To do so she had to abandon the idea that "E-cigarettes should be brought under the control of medicines regulation", but let's not forget that's the position she previously held.

Today her support for e-cigarettes is still limited to the notion that they are nothing more than a smoking cessation tool.

Also, I am still waiting for ASH to repudiate workplace vaping bans introduced by local councils or the excessive restrictions on vaping products and marketing introduced by the EU's Tobacco Products Directive.

Two weeks ago I suggested that tobacco control campaigners like Deborah are trying to colonise the vaping ‘space’ and her latest attack on me/Forest is further proof that she wants to drive out alternative voices.

“I spend a lot of time talking to vapers,” she told BBC presenter Chris Mann yesterday. Perhaps, but she’s not alone in that.

Meanwhile, what about smokers who don’t want to quit? Does she spend a lot of time talking to them as well?

Unlike ASH, Forest has always been extremely positive about e-cigarettes and heat not burn technology because we genuinely believe in choice, not a half-arsed version of it that applies only to non-smokers and those who want to quit smoking.

Our reservations about some vaping advocates has nothing to do with the product but the people, many of whom are lifestyle control campaigners or prohibitionists like Deborah.

Anyway, yesterday's interview concluded with this exchange:

Chris Mann: presenter, BBC Radio Cambridgeshire
So that question of do you think the government can get everyone to quit smoking within 10 years. Deborah, yes or no?

Deborah Arnott
 Yes, but they need to do more and they need to make the tobacco industry pay for things like public education campaigns to help encourage young people not to start and adult smokers to stop and that means switching to e-cigarettes.

Chris Mann
OK. Simon Clark, same question.

Simon Clark
No, I don't think it can be possible to stop people smoking by 2030 because a lot of people enjoy smoking, they don’t wish to quit and they certainly won't be forced to quit by people like Deborah nagging them all the time.

Chris Mann
Thank you both for being here. That’s Simon Clark from Forest and Deborah Arnott, I'm guessing not on his Christmas card list, chief executive of public health charity Action on Smoking and Health.

You can hear the full item, including the interview with Mark MacGregor of Philip Morris, here.

Sunday
Jul142019

Forest's 40th anniversary dinner - presentations and speeches

If you have a spare moment here are the presentations and speeches from Forest’s 40th anniversary dinner last month.

The full video, which includes my opening address, can also be viewed on YouTube here.

If you don’t have the time (or the inclination!) to watch the whole thing we have edited the film into a series of short videos.

They include the toast given by Dr Madsen Pirie, president of the Adam Smith Institute, plus presentations to Brian Monteith, the former Forest spokesman and MSP who is now a member of the European parliament, and TV chef and restaurateur Antony Worrall Thompson.

You can also watch our principal speakers, Mark Littlewood, director-general of the Institute of Economic Affairs, and Claire Fox, director of the Academy of Ideas and MEP for the Brexit party.

To watch on YouTube click on the title of each video below.


Dr Madsen Pirie: "[George] Orwell celebrated freedom, as we do tonight. He reminds us that the quality of life is not measured in years, it's measured in achievement and enjoyment."


Brian Monteith: “Forest has been an inspiration because it has not just thought of itself, as many single issue campaigns do, it has thought of the broader picture.”


Antony Worrall Thompson: “I want you all to know that whatever our next campaign is going to be I’ll be behind it because it’s all about freedom of choice.”


Mark Littlewood: “It may feel like 40 years of hurt but that never stopped me dreaming. Freedom is coming home.”


Claire Fox: “Whether you’re a smoker or a non-smoker, whether you’re Remain or Leave, these things are about how we view a free society.”

Saturday
Jul132019

50th anniversary of the tangerine dream

Since the war it’s been rare for professional football clubs to change their primary colours.

Leeds did it in the Sixties, changing from royal blue shirts to an all white kit inspired by Real Madrid.

There may be other examples but the one I’m most familiar with is Dundee United which changed from white to tangerine in 1969, 50 years ago.

The story behind it is quite interesting, if you like football. If you don’t, look away now.

In 1967 United were one of a number of European clubs invited to spend the summer competing in one of America’s first attempts at a professional ‘soccer’ league.

In the absence of home grown clubs and players, the Americans simply imported foreign teams and rebranded them.

United, for example, became Dallas Tornado and wore an all tangerine strip with blue and white trim.

Given the nature of American ‘soccer’ in the late Sixties the story gets a bit complicated after that but in 1969 United were again invited to represent Dallas Tornado, this time in something called the International Cup.

At the same time, allegedly at the suggestion of manager Jerry Kerr’s wife, United decided to change their own colours from white (with black trim) to tangerine (with black trim).

And here’s the irony. My family moved to Scotland in May 1969 and the reason I decided to support United rather than their rivals Dundee (who play in dark blue and white) was based on nothing more than the fact that I preferred United’s strip - the all white strip.

Unknown to me the decision to change had already been made and on August 4, 1969, United played their first match - a friendly against Everton - in their new colours.

On August 30, at the age of ten, I watched United for the first time. It was against Rangers and the score was 0-0 but what I remember most was the crowd - a roaring mass of 22,000 people, the capacity at the time.

I went to that game with my father - we stood in a small enclosure close to the pitch - but he had little interest in football. To his credit I think he took me so I knew how to get to the ground by myself in future.

Thereafter, every other Saturday, year after year, I made my own way to Tannadice, usually alone because none of my friends at school in St Andrews supported United.

The new colour grew on me although I remember my first replica kit raising a few eyebrows the first time I wore it.

To say it stood out in the sea of blue and green and white hooped replica shirts is an understatement.

The new strip also coincided with the new era of colour television. A day or two after we got our first colour TV in 1972, the highlights of United versus Aberdeen were featured on BBC Scotland.

I missed that game so I was excited at the thought of seeing United - in tangerine - on the telly.

Instead, to avoid a clash with Aberdeen’s all red strip, they played in their second kit - which was all white!

(It didn’t help that the quality of the picture was terrible. I don’t think United’s floodlights were good enough for the cameras at that time.)

However, what most supporters consider to be the ‘classic’ United strip - probably because it coincided with the club’s most successful period - is not all tangerine at all but has black shorts, an important difference.

They were introduced by Adidas in the mid Seventies to replicate the look of the great Dutch team led by Johan Cruyff. (I’m sure the company issued a statement comparing United to the double World Cup finalists.)

Every so often an all tangerine kit reappears and you can hear the collective sigh of disappointment from supporters, never more than in 2017/18 when the shoulders appeared to be a weird shade of rust brown.

I didn’t mind it, to be fair. These kits however ...

Anyway the 2019/20 strip was unveiled this week and thankfully - because it would have been easy for the new American owners to pay homage to the original Dallas Tornado kit - new kit suppliers Macron have given most supporters exactly what they want (see below).

If you think a 60-year-old man writing about football strips must have lost his mind, you’re probably right.

Nevertheless United - and that tangerine kit - have been a big part of my life.

On a Saturday afternoon, with the silvery Tay glistening in the background and the sun shining down on those brightly coloured tangerine seats, there are few other places I’d rather be.

Friday
Jul122019

Hospital declines to reveal under what law it can fine smokers for lighting up

On Wednesday I wrote to Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS trust asking under what law or by-law they could fine smokers £50 for lighting up on the grounds.

It followed this report in the Birmingham Mail (Hospital bosses: If you smoke on our site, even in your car, we will fine you £50).

My email read:

Dear Sirs,

It has been reported that Sandwell and West Birmingham hospitals NHS trust is to fine people caught smoking on hospitals grounds. This will include people caught smoking in their own cars if they are parked on the relevant property.

'Patrols,' we are told, 'will be out and about dishing out penalties on two hospital sites.'

I would be grateful if you could advise me on the relevant law (or by-law) that allows Sandwell and West Birmingham hospitals NHS trust to issue fines to people caught smoking on the grounds of the hospitals, or in their own cars.

I look forward to an early response.

Your faithfully,

This afternoon I got this reply:

Dear Mr. Clark,

In relation to your recent query please find the below information. This information has also been put on our website.

Kind regards,

The Communications Team
Sandwell and West Birmingham NHS Trust

Enforcing our smokefree ban

We want and expect people to stop smoking on our sites. All of our staff are encouraged to ask smokers to stop smoking on site. Additionally we have smoking wardens and security officers on regular patrols.

We are enforcing our smokefree ban by fining people who contravene our smokefree site status. This fine is maximum of £50 and £30 if paid within 15 days of notification.

On being seen smoking on our grounds, smoking wardens will request that the individual stops smoking and explain our smokefree policy.

Should the individual refuse and persist in smoking, the warden will take the name and address of the individual and will check their identity. The Trust will then issue then with a letter with:

• The date, time and location of being seen smoking
• An invoice
• Information about how to appeal
• A discount to £30 if they pay within 15 days
• Information on how to pay
• The Trust will then continue to follow up notifications of fines to the individual’s address should they not pay within 29 days of receiving the letter.

The Trust employs directly smoking wardens and security staff plus an external provider, accredited by the Community Safety Accreditation Scheme (CSAS).

I have replied to that email as follows:

Dear Comms Team,

Thank you for your response. As you are no doubt aware, it doesn't answer my question.

I asked whether you could advise me of the relevant law (or by-law) that allows Sandwell and West Birmingham hospitals NHS trust to issue fines to people caught smoking on the grounds of the hospitals, or in their own cars.

In other words, under what law or by-law does Sandwell and West Birmingham hospitals NHS trust have the power to enforce a smoking ban and fine those who ignore it?

I would be grateful for an answer to that simple question.

Yours faithfully,

If there was a law or by-law that allow them to fine people for smoking on hospital grounds surely they would cite it?

If not, how can they be so confident they have the legal right to do so?

It beggars belief that the trust hasn't taken legal advice. Perhaps they'd like to share it with us?

Btw, I have raised the matter with the Birmingham Post but they're not interested.

No wonder local papers are dying on their arse if they won't follow up the most basic stuff like this.

Friday
Jul122019

My brush with Vice and its help to quit smoking project, Change Incorporated

You may recall that back in January I was interviewed by a freelance journalist working for Vice magazine

He had been commissioned, he said, to write a feature about the ‘smoking lobby’, whatever that is.

This wasn’t a quick ten-minute interview on the phone. He came up to London from Oxford, I travelled in from Cambridgeshire, and we met, at my suggestion, at Boisdale of Belgravia.

We talked for the best part of two hours and parted on amicable terms.

I was under no illusions though. I knew enough about Vice to be wary. The tone is often pretty snarky and I didn’t expect the ‘smoking lobby’ to be painted in a positive light.

Anyway, February and March came and went and the article didn’t appear. I emailed the journalist and he said he thought it was going to be published in April.

That didn’t happen either.

Instead Vice launched an online project called Change Incorporated. Funded by Philip Morris International for a sum rumoured to be £5 million, the project is supposed to help people quit smoking but I’m not sure who would be influenced by its relentless propaganda.

Here are some headlines:

It Broke My Heart to Watch Them Die
Are Festivals Doing Enough to Phase Out Smoking?
Can You Really Cough Up Your Lungs?
How Smoking Increases Chances of Genital Warts
This Is How Smoking Makes Your Penis Shrink
How Smoking is Ruining Your Sex Life
Is Smoking a Deal-Breaker on Tinder?

Anyway, it’s now July. The Vice magazine feature for which I was interviewed in January has still not been published (I guess it never will) but last Friday I received an email from someone working for ... Change Incorporated.

It was from a ‘casting producer’ who explained that she was ‘working on a series of short films for Change Incorporated ... which follows the journey of comedians who want to quit smoking’.

I wondered whether a representative from your organisation might be interested in chatting with one of our comedians about your views around smoking? 

Once again I said yes and on Monday I got a call from a second person working on the same series of films and we had a chat.

I struggled frankly to understand what my role would be but I couldn’t fault his enthusiasm. He sounded like Jack Whitehall which made me wonder if the whole thing was a spoof.

I was told that if they used me they would pay me a fee. I thanked him but said I didn’t want payment.

I added that while I was prepared to consider taking part I had serious reservations about the Change Incorporated project and the anti-smoking stance of its sponsor PMI.

That was on Monday. I haven’t heard a peep since.