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St Helier rejects al fresco dining smoking ban

Good news.

Further to last week's post about a proposed ban on smoking in al fresco dining areas in St Helier, Jersey, the Roads Committee this morning rejected a motion to adopt a ban.

According to BBC Jersey:

Questions were raised by members of the parish’s Roads Committee over whether a blanket ban was appropriate.

Others suggested further research was needed and plans could be put forward in the future to allow businesses to participate in an optional smoking ban for the areas.

A survey put out by the parish to the public, which received 113 responses, found 58% in favour of smoke free al fresco areas, 39% against and 3% were unsure.

But when asked, only 31% of existing al fresco license holders were in favour of smoke free zones.

It was later reported that members of the committee also expressed concerns over how a ban would be policed and how it would affect the town's image.

A leading opponent of a ban was the aptly named Liberation Group of pubs:

One of Jersey's largest pub companies has said a blanket ban on smoking in al fresco areas would infringe on drinker's human rights.

Christine Oxford, from the Liberation Group, said smoking "was not illegal" and businesses with al fresco licenses should not be forced to impose a total ban.

However, she said the group was not opposed to "non-smoking areas".

"We need to do everything we can to enable people to enjoy eating outside in St Helier," she said, claiming the smoking ban could affect the town's vibrancy.

The committee said it wanted to gather more research on other options, including partial bans and exceptions for businesses who did not offer food.

To read Forest's ten-page submission to the Roads Committee consultation, click here.

See also: Forest responds to consultation on smoking in al fresco smoking areas.

According to its website the Liberation Group has a number of pubs in the UK that are run by Butcombe Pubs and Inns.

They appear to be located in the west country, including cities such as Bath and Bristol, so if you live in that region pop in to one of the pubs listed here and demonstrate your support!

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Reader Comments (7)

The 'click here' link to the pdf does not work for me on chrome and edge.

Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 17:02 | Unregistered CommenterFredrik Eich

"The group was not opposed to "non smoking areas" .

In principle who could be? In practise we know where it ends. Slice by slice as non smoking areas are accommodated, they take over until the smokerphobics demand all outside areas to themselves by law - just as they did indoors. The main tactics they will use will be the same as used inside - smoke doesn't stay where smokers are.

Enough's enough. Anti smokers created the outside rod for their own back after forcing smokers to leave the premises and closing down their smoking only indoor pubs with the blanket ban.

I don't feel intolerant in saying not another inch because they have taken so many million yards already. They cannot be allowed to selfishly have the world to themselves. The best solution to the problem now both inside and outside is to let property owners decide who they want to offer hospitality to and who they do not - and to remove politicians and political lobbyists from the equation.

Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 17:43 | Unregistered Commenterpat nurse

Sorry, Fredrik, the link should work now.

Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 17:58 | Unregistered CommenterSimon

Good news for a change! The antismoking juggernaut of intolerance needs to be stopped in its tracks. It's time to consider indoors smoking areas again (in separate spaces if necessary — although there really is no discernible risk from second hand smoke indoors or out under normal conditions).

Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 21:19 | Unregistered CommenterVinny Gracchus

Useful victory for us on this little island too. When the Channel Isles makes a move (be it for or against personal freedom) the Isle of Man tends to follow, and vice versa, as both crown dependencies live in fear of the other getting ahead.

I've taken note in case of any similar rows over here, and will quote should they arise.

Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 12:18 | Unregistered CommenterManx Gent

Excellent submission Simon !
I'm with Pat. I wouldn't give these intolerant anti smoking bigots another inch.

Friday, December 14, 2018 at 15:57 | Unregistered CommenterTimothy Goodacre

Great letter Simon, I especially liked the reference to the "anti-smoking industry".

Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 11:46 | Unregistered CommenterFredrik Eich

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