I was on Radio Two talking to Jeremy Vine today.
The subject was this story – Wakefield's Pinderfields Hospital smokers shamed via loudspeaker (BBC News):
The use of some very young voices is obviously a form of moral blackmail.
Forest was quoted in both the BBC and Metro. Our full statement read:
"Hospitals can be stressful places for patients, visitors and even staff. For some smoking is a comfort and it's pretty Orwellian to target them using loudspeakers and emotive messages.
"Banning smoking on hospital sites rarely works because people will light up anyway. A better solution is a comfortable smoking area away from the hospital entrance but not so far that it discriminates against those who are infirm or less mobile."
Last night I also appeared on Look North (BBC Yorkshire). Among the comments that subsequently appeared on Twitter was this one:
I work at this hospital and it is disgusting having to walk through clouds of smoke to get to work. It's worse when it rains - people stand just outside the door so smoke gets inside. We made a smoking shelter but smokers ignored it!
— Naim Khan (@naimkhan513) October 18, 2018
In contrast here's a comment posted by by Juliette Tworsey on the Forest Facebook page:
How about we create a 'shaming' button for those among us, who in all of their 'perfection', show absolutely NO empathy or human understanding/kindness towards another human being who might be experiencing a time of great stress in his/her life? How about we shame THAT person for lack of kindness and human understanding?
I do accept that a group of people smoking directly outside a hospital entrance isn't a great look. There are reasons why they’re there though.
Hospital smoking rooms disappeared a long time ago. Today NHS trusts either ban smoking completely (although it’s not illegal to light up on hospital grounds in England) or they provide a smoking area or 'shelter'.
The latter has to be at least 50 per cent open to the elements so if it's cold or raining it's human nature to want to stand near the entrance which is often under a large canopy.
Some patients may be attached to drips, in wheelchairs or largely immobile as they recover from hip replacements and who knows what.
For them it's physically difficult to walk or travel any distance, let alone off site, so they light up by the entrance – and who can blame them?
I take issue too with the claim that non-smoking patients, visitors and staff are forced to endure "clouds of smoke" when they enter and exit the hospital.
I've visited a number of hospitals over the years and although I've often seen small groups of smokers directly outside the entrance I've never been exposed to the "fug of smoke" described by Martin Barkley, CEO of Mid Yorkshire Hospitals Trust, when speaking to Jeremy Vine today.
You might think that Barkley has more important issues to deal with. Earlier this year, for example, it was reported that 'Shocking photographs show patients 'forced to lie on the FLOOR with people stepping over them' at a busy Yorkshire hospital amid winter NHS chaos' (Daily Mail).
Naturally I raised the issue while we were being interviewed by Jeremy Vine:
SC: It's only earlier this year that I believe there were some stories in the press about Pinderfields concerning patients having to sleep on the floor. I don't know if Martin can talk about that but it seems to me that type of thing is far more urgent to address than the matter of a few people standing outside having a quiet smoke.
JV: Martin, ball in your court.
MB: [nervous laugh] I mean that was, er, that story was absolutely (sic) misrepresentation of the facts, for a start, about the, um, sleeping on the floor. I want to go back to the point in question ...
You can listen to the full interview here from 33:30.
Meanwhile, what about this report from just two days ago – 'Severe disruption' hit Pinderfields Hospital after norovirus outbreaks.
Or this, from four days ago: 'NHS operations at Pinderfields could be postponed this winter'.
Addressing those issues, I would suggest, is rather more important than targeting a handful of people smoking outside.
But no, Mid Yorkshire Hospitals Trust is not only trying to stub out smoking using a tannoy and children's voices, it is actually boasting about it.
Shameful.
Word about our smoking tannoy at Pinderfields has spread far and wide this week!
— Mid Yorkshire NHS (@MidYorkshireNHS) October 19, 2018
ICYM - our Chief Executive Martin Barkley @MYHTCEO spoke to @theJeremyVine on @BBCRadio2 this afternoon on this very topic. Listen here from about 33 minutes in:https://t.co/VSNStexmtq pic.twitter.com/WgXFhMQWt3